Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?

I have read your teaching, about what you think the water baptism, the faith and the gospel is…..

And sadly this is no good teaching at all! And a lot of verses are taken out of it`s context…

(It is very strange to interpret the Bible like this!?)

*We need to understand that the sum of God`s word is the truth!-Psalm119:160.

<<"Is the water baptism necessary for salvation? No, it is not. Water baptism is not necessary for salvation. You are saved by faith in Jesus Christ alone!"<<

I want to begin with John 3:14-18, ( 4 verses taken out of context. ) If we read the whole chapter, we will see another picture.

I want to start in the beginning of the chapter, when Jesus talkes to Nicodemus :

Verse 3-5 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.
( in verse 4 we see that Nicodemus didn`t understood what it means to be born again.) “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked.
“Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!” ) So Jesus explains it in verse 5, Jesus answered,
“Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are BORN OF WATER AND THE SPIRIT.
( Baptized in water and Holy Spirit. ) What was Peter`s answer to all the people that was asking what shall we do to be saved?
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

*( To be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ, is the water baptism, there is no other baptism to Christ than the baptism in water, we can see that pattern through the book of Acts. )

You can neve seperate true faith and obedience.

Like the last verse in John 3 says : And anyone who believes in God’s Son has eternal life.
Anyone who doesn’t obey the Son will never experience eternal life but remains under God’s angry judgment.”

In the beginning, in the middle and in the end of Romans Paul talkes about that aswell : Rom 1:5

By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name.
And Rom 6:16-17.

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Rom 16:26
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets,
according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith.

We also have that description in Hebrews 3:18-19 : And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed?
So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.

Heb 5:8-9.
Son though he was, Jesus learned obedience from what he suffered, and, once made perfect, HE BECOME THE SOURCE OF ETERNAL SALVATION FOR ALL WHO OBEY HIM.

The other words you write is not saying "faith alone" 5:24, 20:31, Acts 10:43, 16:31, 26:18, Romans 1:16-17,10: 9-17, Ephesians 2:8-9, Philippians 3:9, 1 John 5:13)

Faith is never alone, if it`s alone it`s a dead faith, according to James 2:14,17,21-24.

"What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them?"

In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar?
You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”fn and he was called God’s friend.
You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.

He quotes from Ephesians 2:8-9,and Romans 11:6 and says
<<"It is either by grace alone or by works alone, but not a mix of both."

That is not true, because the true grace of God gives us power to obey Him,
( and that has nothing to do with a work based salvation, because that is not possible. )
We can`t invent another way to salvation than the way God has made, we can try but it will of course not work.

So it`s true that it is only by grace through faith, ( the true grace and faith gives us power to obey what God commands us to do, namely repent and be baptized. )

To be baptized is not to work for your salvation, it is simply to obey the gospel….

And yes the water baptism is a part of the gospel….we se that over and over again in the book of Acts….

For example, when Philip lead the eunuch to faith in Christ….

Act 8:35-36.
Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.
As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said,
“Look, here is water. What can stand in the way of my being baptized?

*(That question proofs that Philip had told him about the water baptism, and that it is a part of the gospel of Jesus.)

And yes, it´s alot of people who don`t preach the full gospel of Jesus, if anyone take away only 1 ingredients from the gospel they have a diluted it.

*( This is what The Last Reformation is all about – to come back to the true & full gospel! )

<<"This (that baptism is necessary for salvation) is actually a very dangerous teaching because it is saying that faith in Jesus alone is not enough for my whole salvation,
only partially. It is something I also can/must do to complete my salvation. That is wrong, and contradicts the Bible."

How can it contradict the Bible, when it is a part of the gospel??
Just because it`s not mentioned at every place, doesn`t mean that it`s not necessary.

If water baptism is not necessary to be saved, why was Peter commanding that the people in Cornelius house who had recieved the Holy Spirit should be baptized in water?

And we see it in other places aswell….

When Paul came to Ephesus ( Acts 19: “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”
So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?” “John’s baptism,” they replied. Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”
On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.
( They was not born again before that, they became born again when they was baptized in water and recieved the Holy Spirit. )

*We see that they was already baptized in water ( by John the baptist ) But they needed to be baptized to Christ/in the name of Jesus.
( Why did Paul baptized them in water one more time, because they was not in Christ/born again/saved from sin before that! )

*The baptism in the name of Jesus, is the water baptism in other places, so it is also in this place.

That interpretation of 1 Cor 1:14-17 is very strange…
<<If baptism is necessary for salvation, Paul would be saying that he was thankful that the Corinthians were not saved,

( Do you really believe that only the persons Paul had baptized was the only ones in the church of Corinth that was baptized?? )
Or could other disciples have baptized them?? Jesus commanded every disciple to baptize, so of course they was baptized, but not of Paul……
Otherwise they had not been apart of the church….( only born again people are in the body of Christ, and it is through the water baptism you come in to Christ. )

<<and also contradict his own calling given by Jesus,
when he says “for Christ did not send me to save, but to preach the Gospel.”

Paul preached the same gospel as Peter and Philip and the others we read about in Acts. *So when he preached and someone repented and came to faith, he or someone else baptized them ( Paul was never traveling alone.)
And it was some people who lived at the places where he preached who was disciples since before and could baptize the new believers to Christ.
*So Paul didn`t need to, he could focus on the ministry of preaching, ( the word and the prayer, exactly as the apostles in Jerusalem.- Acts 6:4. )

In Romans 6 Paul is teaching about what water baptism does, there he is talking about what the water baptism truly means.

In the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written”, “The just shall live by faith.”

Amen, righteousness of God in us begins with faith and it ends with faith, ( and between the beginning and the end we live by faith/in obedience. )

The foundation of the faith / the elimantary teachings of Christ / the milk of the word. Is all different names of the one and the same gospel….

And it is described in Hebrews 6:1-2.

1)Repentance from dead works/sins.
2)Faith toward God,
3)Doctrine of baptisms, ( *baptism in water. )
4)Laying on of hands, ( *baptism in the Holy Spirit. )
5)Resurrection of the dead,
6)Eternal judgment.

*The first baptism to Christ is in water, and the first laying on of hands is so people recieve the Holy Spirit.

In the book of Acts we can clearly see that they had all of this 6 ingredients when they preached the gospel……

We don`t see all of them every time we see them preach, because Luke didn`t want to mention all of them everytime he wrote what they preached….

And the book of Acts is written like a letter to one individual, just like the gospel of Luke also is ( without chapters and verses )
Exactly like the rest of the books in NT. So we shall read it all/and understand it in the context of the whole book.

The same is important to understand Romans 10:8-17, read it in the kontext of the whole letter….he wrote this to people who already was born again, / saved from sins through the gospel…so he was talking about salvation from other things….otherwise he would have spooken against the gospel as the power to salvation.

*If Paul meant that they only needed to beleive in their hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead and confess Him as Lord with their mouth, to be saved.
He gave them wrong teaching earlier in Romans, and if that is true he was actually teaching against what Jesus said,
And against what he and Peter and others in the book of Acts preached. And against what he wrote in other letters, and what other apostles wrote in their letters.

And when it comes to 1 Peter 3:18-22; says that the water who saved Noa and his family is a symbol on how the water baptism now saves us….

Peter wrote that the water baptism cleanse the conscience toward God, and that is of course on the same line as when he said that they should be forgiven when they was baptized.
The baptism is needed to be forgiven and cleansed from sin.

And in Romans 6 Paul teaches that : Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.
For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with,fn that we should no longer be slaves to sin—
because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.
Paul is clearly saying that it is in the water baptism Jesus make us free, free indeed from the slavery of sin, from sin itself.

And Paul wrotes what Jesus did in the water baptism in Rom 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. ( That is reality, and not a symbol. )

In the "old covenant" there was symbols pointing forward to the real things in the "new covenant" that came through Jesus.

I can give an example with the communion ( bread and wine ) if it was only symbols we wouldn't need to eat bread and drink wine….. ( We schould only need to pretend to eat bread and drink vine. )

Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.

* I don`t believe that the bread and wine are being transformed to Christ body and blood, but Jesus commanded us to eat bread and drink wine in rememberance and proclamation of His death…
And like I said, if it is a symbol we don`t need to eat bread and drink wine when we are doing the communion.

The same with water baptism, if it is a symbol we don`t need to baptize in water, but Jesus has commanded us to baptize….

And in the new covenant we have only 2 baptism, one in water to Christ and another in the Holy Spirit. ( Or could you proof with Scriptures that water baptism and baptism to Christ is 2 different baptisms? )

John 8,

In verse 12
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

Jhn 8:30
Even as he spoke, many believed in him.

MANY JEWS BELIEVED IN JESUS!!!! ( AND YOU CLAIMS THAT IS ENOUGH TO BE SAVED. ) LET`S CONTINUE TO READ AND SEE WHAT JESUS IS TELLING THEM…..

Jhn 8:31
To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.

So according to Jesus it wasn't enough that they believed in Him! But let`s continue and see what more He said……..

Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”

Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.

Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever.

So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

*So they believed in Jesus but they was still slaves to sin!

The water baptism to Christ saves us from sin / make us free from the slavery of sin / breaks the law of sin and death.
( If we have repented before the baptism. Repentence and bptism are together the key to freedom, it dosen`t work if we seperates them. )

<<"This (that baptism is necessary for salvation) is actually a very dangerous teaching because it is saying that faith in Jesus alone is not enough for my whole salvation,
Only partially. It is something I also can/must do to complete my salvation."

Yes it`s dangerous for our enemy (Satan) because he knows that it is in the water baptism JESUS SAVES A SINNER FROM THEIR SINS / DELIVER A HUMAN FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.
And that there is in the water baptism a person is made to a new creation. ( If they have repented before it, and do it in faith to Jesus )

<<"faith in Jesus alone is not enough for my whole salvation"
( That is exactly what James said in his letter! )

And Peter and Paul did not contradict James, they believed and preached the same gospel.

<<"It is something I also can/must do to complete my salvation."

We can of course not lay anything to the work Jeus have done so all humans CAN BE SAVED!

But let us go back to the day of Pentecost, when Peter preached the gospel : When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, WHAT SHALL WE DO?”

Peter replied what they needed TO DO to be saved: “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

*Peter did not replied, : "You don`t need to do anything" ( and he didn`t say "only believe in Jesus" ) He did not even said "you need to put you faith in Jesus"
( Does it mean that faith is not necessary for salvation, of course not. ) And it dosen`t mean that he didn`t said that they needed to put their faith in Jesus.
*It simply means that Luke didn`t wrote down everything he said, and likewise with the other places in the book of Acts.

Luke gives us a hint in verse 40 : "With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”

I want to end with this, the Lord has commanded batism both in Matthew and in Mark. *You interpretation of what Jesus said in Mark is very strange…
When Jesus says : THE ONE THAT BELIEVES AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED, BUT THE ONE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE WILL BE CONDEMNED.

( To you Jesus didn`t really mean that we need to be baptized to be saved because He ends only with believe. )

*But Jesus didn`t say anything about repentence there, does it mean that we don`t need to repent to be saved?? No of course not.

We need to read all Jesus said in His great commission, in all 4 gospels, (Matthew, Mark Luke, and John.)
*According to John He said "as the Father have sent me, i send you – Recieve the Holy Spirit."

1) Matthew wrote that Jesus told them : go out and make disciples of people from all nations, baptize them in God`s name, and teach them to obey all that i have commanded you.
( So we see that obedience is also necessary to be saved. )

2) Mark wrote that Jesus said : go out and preach the gospel to all creation, and thoose who believes and is baptized will be saved.
And this signs will follow thoose who believes the gospel. ( The signs that follows believers is not commandments, it`s signs. ) *We are commanded to preach the full gospel!
( The same gospel Paul preached, it is the only one from Jesus. )

3) Luke wrote : He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day,
and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. -Luk 24:46-47.

4) And in Acts we see that all of this was in the gospel they preached : Repent to God, believe in Jesus and be baptized to Him in water,
so your sins are being forgiven and you shall recieve the Holy Spirit.

*When people recieved their words and obeyed it ( not before ) they was born again!

A question : if you believe water baptism is not needed for salvation, how about repentence?? Because it was nothing in your teaching about the need of repentence to be saved!!

Repentence is the message through ALL the scriptures, and it is certainly a part of the gospel, so it would be wrong to not preach it…and it`s the same with faith, and baptism in water, and the baptism in the Holy Spirit.

*I want to quit with this words….It`s so importent to be careful when we teach, that we teach the right doctine ( the doctrine of the apostles ) …otherwise we deceive people.

God bless you!

There is not contradiction with the word of God.The Gospel you preach my friend,is a contradiction to the gospel preached by the Apostles in the Book of Acts.Your gospel is full of holes.1 Peter 1:12 which are now reported unto you by them ,that have preached unto you by them that have preached the gospel with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven.